au 1-18-01

alfred university chat session, hosted by predictive edge, inc.
7:00 - 9:00 pm est, january 18, 2001

as you review these transcripts, you will notice gaps. these gaps occur when a student, parent, or counselor elects to communicate privately. these side discussions are private, and transcripts are not kept. transcripts are provided below for the following rooms:

Admissions and Financial Aid I - Admissions and Financial Aid II - Financial Aid I - Financial Aid II

Admissions and Financial Aid I

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:08 PM)
hi

eh_lina (ID=68) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:22 PM)
hello

eh_lina (ID=68) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:38 PM)
so how is this going to work

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:57 PM)
very good. Are you all high school seniors

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:59 PM)
This will be interesting for me as I've never been in a chat room before

eh_lina (ID=68) (Jan 18, 2001 6:56:08 PM)
i'm a junior

iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 6:56:10 PM)
I am

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 6:56:11 PM)
this is new for me as well

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 6:56:22 PM)
yes, senior

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 6:56:47 PM)
I am a parent of a senior

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 6:57:19 PM)
where do we go from here?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 6:57:45 PM)
do you have any questions for financial aid or admissions

eh_lina (ID=68) (Jan 18, 2001 6:57:59 PM)
i do

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 6:58:05 PM)
okay, please ask

iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 6:58:33 PM)
when is the deadline for admissions and what is the best format to send for a portfolio

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 6:58:50 PM)
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manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 6:59:35 PM)
who signs off on loans if necessary ? Is it the parents or the student themselves?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 6:59:53 PM)
The Admissions Deadline is February 1 (postmark), for applications and portfolios. This is also our preferred date for supporting materials, though we realize that it may take the school a few extra days to get materials to us.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:52 PM)
Manhattan, for the student loan the student is the only person who needs to sign. The loan is taken out in the students name. If you take out a parent loan, the loan will be in the parents name and the parent will have to pay it back.

eh_lina (ID=68) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:11 PM)
ok well my father gets paid very well but he won't be helping me with college but he puts me in with his taxes so it's going to be very expensive for me is there anyway i can avoid this

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:16 PM)
When sending portfolios we recommend that the slides be packed in a slide box, rather than a slide sheet. Although we haven't had problems, the potential for damage is less in a box.

iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:17 PM)
now this is for a completed application or can you be missing a few sections but still be able to finish in time?

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:57 PM)
We are in danger of being late with the portfolio. What happens then?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:02:41 PM)
Everyone should file the FAFSA form for financial aid, and the Alfred University financial aid applications which will be sent toyou shortly after you apply for admissions. We would then be able to give you an estimate of what you might be eligible for

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:03:15 PM)
We request that the application be postmarked by Feb. 1, we will accept supporting materials after that date.

iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 7:04:46 PM)
i havent been able to finish my essays ,but i can send in it in after Feb 1 ? also is there a deadline for supporting information?

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 7:04:53 PM)
my child has already done the application. So if the porfolio is a little late, say Feb.15 is that ok?

evans (ID=73) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:14 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:17 PM)
manhattan, was that the answer you were looking for

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:21 PM)
I would encourage you to work to get the portfolio in on time. The school of art and design is a very competative program and it is to the student's advantage to meet the deadline. If an extension is absolutely necessary than you can call our admissions office (1-800-541-9229) and request an extention. These are usually granted for special circumstances and are generally only for a few days.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:29 PM)
hi evans

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:33 PM)
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evans (ID=73) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:09 PM)
Hi! I'm interested in getting some information about your programs with classified kids.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:18 PM)
hi ann

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:28 PM)
hello

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:07:20 PM)
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EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 7:07:55 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:08:00 PM)
iggy1105: You still have some time to work on that essay, so perhaps you can work to get it in on time. We will accept it a few days late, but we try to read applications in the order in which they complete and it may take us longer to get a decision out to you if you send things in late.

EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 7:08:44 PM)
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manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:06 PM)
I am a currently unemployed single parent. When and how do I tell the school?

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:13 PM)
Is it possible to tell me how many people have been admitted to the School of Art and Design Early Admission?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:24 PM)
Do you have to fill out Fafsa to be considered for an acedemic scholarship?

iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:49 PM)
ok i understand. as far as transcripts are concerned i know m school is extremely slow with sending these out . i also am applyig online how would my counselour go about getting this information to you?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:00 PM)
Do you give sports scholarships?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:07 PM)
manhattan you need to fill out the fafsa, and report your 2000 income. If you lost your job this year there is a section on the alfred university aid application that asks you to describe any special circumstances. We do review all documentation that is submitted

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:10 PM)
hi ann,

evans (ID=73) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:28 PM)
When you are a student that had IEP in high school and one area of your disability was in test taking, how much attention do you focus on SAT and ACT scores?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:12:01 PM)
you do not need to file the forms to be reviewed for scholarships, but we reccommend that all freshman file the forms, and no we do not have sports scholarships

manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 7:12:38 PM)
Thanks,fafsa was done already.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:13:23 PM)
great. Once you apply to the university we will send you our university application for financial aid

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:14:14 PM)
Do you ever accept transfer student into the School of Art and Design the sophomore year?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:15:33 PM)
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iggy1105 (ID=71) (Jan 18, 2001 7:15:46 PM)
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ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:16:00 PM)
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manhattan (ID=69) (Jan 18, 2001 7:16:33 PM)
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Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:58 PM)
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ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:00 PM)
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Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:40 PM)
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soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:59 PM)
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iggy1105 (ID=82) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:29 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:44 PM)
hi iggy1105

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:21:01 PM)
Are there questions out there that I can help answer from an Admissions perspective, or that JL can answer from a Financial Aid perspective?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:21:20 PM)
stacy did you see the ? from evans

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:22:37 PM)
Yes, I am answering evans' questions privately, so that we can address the specifics of their situation

iggy1105 (ID=82) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:24 PM)
hello one last question i hope if i submit my application online but leave out an area because i want to send it via snail mail will i have tpo pay an application fee? what i mean is if i send my app online tontght i can send the rest a little later but not be required to pay?

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:31 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:54 PM)
hi soccer mom do you have any questions for financial aid or admissions

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:19 PM)
Sorry, soccermom, I'm working to keep up, thanks for your patience! We do accept transfer students into the school of art and design

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:27:45 PM)
Iggy: you can send supplemental materials and will not be charged an application fee if you have submitted in your application on-line

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:26 PM)
Soccermom: were you able to catch my answer that we do accept transfer students into the school of art and design?

iggy1105 (ID=82) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:43 PM)
thank you

M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:45 PM)
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soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:45 PM)
Thanks Stacy @Alfred....... about the transfer question........I still have another question our there....can you tell me how many students have already been accepted Early Decision into the School of Art and Design?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:54 PM)
iggy: you are welcome!

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:00 PM)
m'ten

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:03 PM)
hi

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:11 PM)
iggy1105

M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:15 PM)
Hi

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:34 PM)
did you know that you can file the federal financial aid forms on line as well the FAFSA

M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:59 PM)
No

M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:26 PM)
WHat if my mother doesnt have her new income taz forms as of yet

iggy1105 (ID=82) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:28 PM)
no i didnt

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:13 PM)
Soccermom: about 75% of the early decision applicants to the school of art and design were accepted, we anticipate that about 50% of the regular decision applicant pool to that school will be accepted. I'm sorry that I can't share hard numbers at this time

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:34 PM)
on the front of the FAFSA form that you can get from your high school has the address for the internet on the front of the form. You would need to print the signature page and send it in, but you can complete it on line

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:41 PM)
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M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:57 PM)
Can I fill the FAFSA with the older ones?? Are there any loopholes to not having the incometax forms yet?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:34:21 PM)
iggy1105 or anyone, of you or your parents have not filed the 2000 income tax forms you can either estimate on the fafsa form, or A.U.'s recommended deadline for filing the fafsa and the alfred univeristy financial aid forms is march 15 .

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:35:18 PM)
My son's 2nd semester grades, plus total GPA and class rank will be out Feb. 2....should we fax them to you immediately or does that have to come directly from the Guidance Office?

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:11 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:34 PM)
you can use the older income tax returns, but if your parents information changes from year to year it is up to you. If you round figures, round in the 100 of dollars, not 1,000 of dollars. If you estimate, the further your estimates are off the further your first inital aid package could be off, but we verify all information so we would request yours and your parents tax returns and other information later on.

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:46 PM)
Soccermom - Stacey will be with you in a second.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:03 PM)
hi bustr

M'ten (ID=83) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:14 PM)
Thanks

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:24 PM)
Hello

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:35 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:44 PM)
Soccermom: we do request that the guidance office send them, but a faxed copy would be appreciated for the sake of efficiency. The fax # is 607-871-2198.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:52 PM)
do you have any questions regarding financial aid or admissions

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:18 PM)
Probably basic info regarding admissions at first

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:07 PM)
How about deadlines, etc. for the near future

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:12 PM)
Do your coaches ever have a voice in the admissions process?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:46 PM)
Okay, Bustr, what kind of basic questions do you have? Our middle 50% of students generally have a solid B to B+ average and a 1050-1250 on their SAT's

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:14 PM)
Our admissions application deadline is February 1, 2001

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:54 PM)
I'll be here but I'm writing some things down

ryan (ID=79) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:01 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:07 PM)
hi ryan

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:42 PM)
Stacy@Alfred....you just told Bustr that middle 50% of student s generally have a solid B - B+ average....our school gives our numeric

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:09 PM)
Coaches have the opportunity to share their impressions of who might serve as contributing members of our teams, though the admissions decision is based on the academic review, recommendations, essay and extracurricular activities.

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:25 PM)
grades...how do you equate the 2?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:33 PM)
ryan do you have any questions regarding financial aid or admissions

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:19 PM)
Well, our counselors work on a regional basis and we tend to be pretty familiar with the individual schools that we work with. If you wanted a numeric equivilant it would generally be 84-89, but may be different in relation to your child's individual school.

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:14 PM)
For soccer players that are below the 50% described above, but have great leadership skills and extensive extra-c activities, if accepted, is there assistance (tutors) at school to help

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:38 PM)
And none of this is a hard and fast formula. 25% fall below and 25% of students land above the ranges that I shared. We spend a lot of time with each applicaiton.

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:46:18 PM)
Tutors are available for all students, not just athletes.

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:46:52 PM)
Is access to tutors easy to obtian?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:54 PM)
Yes, tutoring options are easily accessible, and our faculty are also available to provide extra help

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:18 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:21 PM)
Soccermom: I need clarification on your last question

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:08 PM)
hi dp

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:29 PM)
hi

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:31 PM)
do you have any questions for financial aid or admissions

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:53 PM)
In my experience and as per another son now in college, faculty are generally available for meetings, and maybe some guidance, but usually extra help falls on graduate students. Are there really enough to go around when the semester gets busy

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:11 PM)
many of my quest ans in room 4, we'll just watch other quest for now see if we missed anything

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:26 PM)
okay.

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:42 PM)
Stacy@Alfred...I think my last question was the one I chopped in two...but it was about equating a numeric grade with B to B+ average and I think that question was answered.

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:07 PM)
Graduate students do not play a significant role in the tutoring opportunities on our campus. We maintain a 12:1 student to faculty ratio, so as to ensure that our students can get help from their instructors. We also hire students in the upper-level divisions of majors to tutor.

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:29 PM)
I would also like to know if you have a projected total cost (tuition, room, board, etc.) for the School of Art and Design for 2001-2002?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:34 PM)
Soccermom: Thanks for explaining that to me!

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:53:32 PM)
I've never heard our students complaining of problem in securing a tutor or other extra help when thy needed it.

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:53:47 PM)
Good to hear. Nothing like the smaller school to add the personal touch.

Bustr (ID=86) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:30 PM)
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dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:55:17 PM)
can a student apply for both the southern tier scholarship and the jonathan allen award for leadership if they meet the criteria for both

Risque_Vie (ID=91) (Jan 18, 2001 7:55:24 PM)
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dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:06 PM)
also if a student is in AU getting a double major in psychology and studio art would

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:30 PM)
Final costs for next year will not be set until late February, however I'd be happy to share this year's costs. For an in-state student entering A&D or Ceramic Engineering the total costs add up to $16,656. For out of state students it is $20,016. For students interested in the private colleges (Liberal Arts, Business, and Engineering and Professional Studies) it is $26,282 for an incoming freshman.

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:31 PM)
she be eligible for the art portfolio scholarship or is this limited to art & design students

Risque_Vie (ID=91) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:39 PM)
Hello I 'm Laura and I would like to know about financial aid available to international students

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 7:59:18 PM)
There are no special applications to be considered for our scholarships (we automatically consider all applicants for awards). We can only grant one scholarship per student and we always ellect the one with the highest dollar amount.

Risque Vie (ID=94) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:35 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:56 PM)
dp: If the student applies to the school of art and design then she can be considered for the portfolio scholarship

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:01:33 PM)
for international students we have alternative loans which are through outside banks,

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:01:42 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:01:46 PM)
Risque Vie: We do have a limited number of international student scholarships each year. These are awarded by Alfred University in support of a diverse international student community, non-U.S. citizens considering full-time enrollment at Alfred University under a student visa are evaluated for this scholarship program. The value of the scholarship varies, depending on the applicant's academic credentials and individual circumstances. For Business, Liberal Arts and Sciences, and Engineering and Professional Studies programs, awards range from $8,000 to $13,000. For Ceramic Engineering and Art programs, awards range from $2,500 to $5,500. International Scholarships are renewable for up to eight semesters provided the recipient is enrolled full-time and maintains a 3.0 cumulative grade point average. Scholarship awards are determined by the Alfred University Admissions Scholarship Committee, and all applicants are automatically considered for the award.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:02:26 PM)
soccer mom, is the info. I gave you of any help

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:17 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:25 PM)
dp: If she applies for the college of Liberal Art and Sciences and persues her art through our liberal arts fine arts program (and therefor would not be sending in a portfolio) she would not be considered for this award

Risque Vie (ID=94) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:50 PM)
Thanks Stacey...What financial aid forms would I have to fill out??

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:04:47 PM)
you need to file the FAFSA and the A.U. financial aid forms

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:10 PM)
Risque Vie: you would actually just need to submit our international student application materials.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:27 PM)
opps thanks stacy

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:48 PM)
risque Vie stacy is correct sorry about that

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:03 PM)
Dear Stacy@Alfred and jl-aid counselor...I'm a bit confused...Stacy quoted my a total of in-state for Art and Design of $16,665 and jl quoted me a total of $18,999 (excluding personal and travel)...which is more accurate?

Risque Vie (ID=94) (Jan 18, 2001 8:07:21 PM)
Okay..Do you give any full scholarships?? And do you have a Caribbean body at your school??

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 8:07:23 PM)
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Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:07:34 PM)
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Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:09 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:58 PM)
soccer mom, the figure I gave you includes books, transp. and personal expenses. the figure stacy gave you does not include those fees

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:10:41 PM)
those fees would not appear on a student bill (the travel, personal and books)

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:11:25 PM)
hi chris do you have any questions for financial aid or admissions

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:11:47 PM)
Risque Vie: Unfortunately we do not have the resources to provide full scholarships for international students. The scholarships outlined above are our limits. We do have some representation from the Carribean on campus.

Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:13:17 PM)
Stacey

Risque Vie (ID=94) (Jan 18, 2001 8:13:32 PM)
That is indeed unfortunate...Does AU have a field hockey team?

Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:13:43 PM)
What is the average application turn around time?

Mrs. Jones (ID=95) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:44 PM)
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soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:59 PM)
Stacy and jl.......I must be dense but the two figures still are about $1600. apart.for just tuition, room, board and fees....are these two figures this years and projected next years??

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:09 PM)
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dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:24 PM)
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EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:29 PM)
Beware of Mrs. Jones

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:35 PM)
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Mrs. Jones (ID=95) (Jan 18, 2001 8:16:27 PM)
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Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:17:09 PM)
How long after the FAFSA is filed would we expect to get a finanical aid projection from Alfred?

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 8:17:09 PM)
yes thank you it found me in the other room

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:18:17 PM)
Does the federal metholology figure in the students contribution when calculating the expected family contribution or does the students contribution come in later?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:14 PM)
soccer mom the figures that I have are the most recent info. Once the figures have been decided by the boardof trustees I would be more than happy to send you the charges

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:53 PM)
Yes the students contibution is calculated into the fedearl methodology right up front

Risque Vie (ID=94) (Jan 18, 2001 8:20:04 PM)
Before I go i just wanna say soccermom has some excellent questions and this chat was quite informative...THANKS!!

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:20:53 PM)
Soccermom: believe JL, I'm working from copy in our catalog, she has the latest figures...I promise that we are not trying to confuse you.

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:21:14 PM)
Thanks Risque Vie!

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:21:45 PM)
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dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 8:23:19 PM)
thanks very much for all the info

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:24:21 PM)
What other questions are floating out there?

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:25:37 PM)
After the federal methodology had determined our expected family contribution, is there any way to dispute this figure or is it hard and fast based on the figures we sent in?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:05 PM)
it is based on the figures you enter on the fafsa, but we will verify the information you entered to make sure everything is okay on the forms. The federal gov. calculates the EFC

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:29:45 PM)
So once the EFC is determined, Alfred tries to bridge the gap between EFC and total cost of Alfred with scholarships, grants, loans, work-study etc......is that how it works???

Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:30:04 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:30:06 PM)
YEs!!!!!!

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:30:29 PM)
Soccer mom that is correct, we do our best.

Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:31:21 PM)
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soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:32:20 PM)
If the EFC is still more than we had anticipated, than it is up to us to investigate different loans, besides the ones that Alfred suggests for us.....am I on the right track????

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:34:11 PM)
The other types of loans that we have avalaible are alternative loans-taken out in the students name. but they need a cosigner, parent loans-taken out in the parents name and paid back by the parent while the student is in college, and the university also has a payment plan. If you are interested in the alternative or parent plus loans you would just call our office for the applications and how much you are eligible for.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:11 PM)
We have that information in our office and we have a preffered lending list which is banks we have worked with

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:17 PM)
Financial Aid and Admissions can both be reached at 1-800-541-9229

EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:28 PM)
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Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:31 PM)
Does Alfred have a multi-month payment plan with a standard fee or is it individually determined?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:36 PM)
hi ec

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:35:52 PM)
We are open 8:30-4:30 weekdays and admissions is also open most Saturday mornings during the school year.

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:36:02 PM)
Thanks jl....this is becoming more real and scarier than Space Mountain at Disney....but of course we're novices...this being our first college bound child

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:36:27 PM)
Chris, the university has a couple of payment plan options and depending on which one you chose the fees are different. The University does not accept charge cards

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:36:42 PM)
Soccer mom, what can I help you with

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:37:30 PM)
Thanks jl....I'm just thinking now......but this has been a fantastic experience and SOOOOOO helpful!

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:37:36 PM)
Soccer mom you are asking all of the right ?

EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 8:37:36 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:37:49 PM)
Did you want me to send you any information

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:37:52 PM)
Soccermom: don't panic...we have a very counseling based campus and we will do whatever we can to help you through this transition.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:38:33 PM)
chris did I answer your question

Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:39:04 PM)
Yes, thank you...considering cash flow of monthly payment options vs. lump sums.

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:39:17 PM)
What other questions do folks have?

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:39:43 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:39:58 PM)
We have other loans that you or your parents can take out beyond what aid is offered if you are eligible, just another idea.

Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:40:33 PM)
What is the average admission application cycle time? and time from filing FAFSA to receiving financial aid packages from Alfred?

Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:40:50 PM)
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jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:08 PM)
You should file the FAFSA and the Alfred University aid application for financial aid no later than March 15

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:15 PM)
Hi Roxanne

Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:23 PM)
Hi jl

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:38 PM)
Chris: We try to be as efficient as we can be in the admissions office. We mail decisions as we make them and most students will hear by mid-March

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:44 PM)
do you have any questions for admissions or financial aid

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:52 PM)
(Certainly many will hear in advance of that date)

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:41:57 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:42:33 PM)
Hi Roxanne! Are there questions that we can help answer?

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:42:34 PM)
I think you answered this already, but when does Alfred mail me the AU aid application forms?

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:43:00 PM)
Once you apply for admissions the forms will be sent to you.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:43:16 PM)
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Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:43:31 PM)
Hi Mom! What's for dinner? ;-)

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:43:44 PM)
(sorry couldn't resist!)

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:43:53 PM)
Not much, while I'm sitting here instead of cooking!

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:44:39 PM)
What kinds of questions can we help answer for you?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:44:44 PM)
I don't really have any more questions, I'm just seeing what I can gleanfrom other people's questions

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:45:00 PM)
But you're making me hungry!

Chris (ID=96) (Jan 18, 2001 8:45:13 PM)
How do athletics factor into for example Leadership Scholarships?

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 8:45:22 PM)
That's a good plan. JL is here from the Financial Aid Office and I'm here from Admissions.

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:45:33 PM)
soccer mom have you files the fafsa yet

jl-aid counselor (ID=64) (Jan 18, 2001 8:46:18 PM)
mom, do you have any questions about fin aid or admissions

soccermom (ID=72) (Jan 18, 2001 8:47:22 PM)
yes, but I made a slight mis-calculation in the income figures, so they will have to be modified when fafsa sends back the form....does this make for a big hold-up for the forms to be sent to AU?

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Admissions and Financial Aid II

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:15 PM)
hi!

Stacey @ Alfred (ID=60) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:38 PM)
Hi Renee, oops! I'l move to the other admis. room :-)

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 6:55:43 PM)
which finaid person am i supposed to be with?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 6:59:19 PM)
hello!

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 6:59:51 PM)
Hello

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 6:59:59 PM)
it's just us in here!

Lisa (ID=75) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:04 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:11 PM)
hello lisa!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:15 PM)
hello rick

Lisa (ID=75) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:21 PM)
Hi Renee

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:33 PM)
do you have any questions we can answer for you?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:00:52 PM)
Hello Lisa and Rick, I am Diane a financial aid couselor at Alfred.

Lisa (ID=75) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:36 PM)
I have a question about fafsa. I completed an online application for less than parttime, went through the whole procedure only to find out than if you're taking less than parttime (6 credit hours) you are not eligible for financial aid or student loans.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:47 PM)
Welcom dp

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:01:59 PM)
Lisa,

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:02:06 PM)
hello

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:02:54 PM)
dp, if you have a question, you can ask it. Diane is helping Lisa right now

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:03:35 PM)
but I am available to answer questions

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:04:52 PM)
re: question #19 on AU's fin aid app - What's the reason for it, how is the info used

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:05:26 PM)
dp- hang on for one moment, i need to get an app for reference.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:01 PM)
Lisa, Sorry about that other message. If you are less than part-time you do not qualify for the Stafford or Perkins federal loans, but you would be able to apply for a student alternative loan. Whether or not you would be approved for an alternative loan is also an issue. You may also be eligible for part-time Pell grant if you are at least three credit hours. Your student aid report should indicate whether or not you may be eligible for the Pell grant based on the information you provided.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:22 PM)
dp- are you referring to asking family member information?

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:06:58 PM)
home ownership - value of home etc

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:07:31 PM)
I think i need to defer to DC for that, as I am an admissions counselor.

Lisa (ID=75) (Jan 18, 2001 7:08:10 PM)
I can't even get past Alfred's financial aide department. They INSIST I am not eligible for ANYTHING. What can I do?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:08:45 PM)
DP- i think Diane may be tied up for a moment, so I will do my best.....

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:16 PM)
all of the information we request is used to help us figure out how much money your family has to contribute to your education.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:09:47 PM)
information about home ownership relates to how much moeny folks need to put into their homes as well as what sort of tax breaks they receive for owning a home.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:10:32 PM)
does that help?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:10:33 PM)
dp, Looking at the 2001/2002 AU ap, question #19 is home owner information. Neither AU of federal needs analysis methodology take home value/debt into consideration for the calculation of the expected family contribution. We use that information to help us better assess the family's circumstances.

EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 7:10:34 PM)
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DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:10:47 PM)
Hi EC

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:10:56 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:02 PM)
ec, nice of you to check in on us

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:07 PM)
Hello Matt

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:08 PM)
good evening Matt

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:12 PM)
hello

EC Aid Advisor (ID=63) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:13 PM)
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Lisa (ID=75) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:25 PM)
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DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:38 PM)
Do you have any financial aid questions matt?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:11:58 PM)
mainly about the national merit scholarships

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:12:17 PM)
What would you like to know about the Nat'l Merit SCholarship?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:12:33 PM)
for one, when do I have to make my choice known to national merit corp.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:13:22 PM)
you need to declare AU your # 1 choice by April 1st, I beleive.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:13:40 PM)
you must notify the Natl Merit Corp by April 1 that Alfred is your first choice.

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:13:48 PM)
ok

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:13:59 PM)
Anything else?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:14:27 PM)
Also, I know that overall the scholarships are not automatic, something like thirty are guaranteed to be awarded though

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:14:49 PM)
yes- we arward 25 each year

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:15:08 PM)
some are for full tuition room and board, some just tuition

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:15:35 PM)
In the description of the full tuition room and board ones, I got the impression that these were basically guaranteed if you met certain criteria

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:15:56 PM)
and that the rest were then sort of "space-available"

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:16:03 PM)
yes- if you are in the top 5% of your clawss with a 95 average, i think

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:16:11 PM)
uh, that would be class

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:16:51 PM)
So, since I meet those criteria, if I name Alfred as my first choice, I am basically guaranteed full tuition, room, and board?

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:11 PM)
how many southern tier scholarships do you give- what criteria is used and their relative weight

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:13 PM)
rank in class and GPA are not strict guidlines, howver, in that we take into consideration the school you attend and your curriculum. but it seems like you'd be in good shape!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:34 PM)
there is no definite number of souther tier scholarships

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:43 PM)
all student who qualify are considered

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:17:53 PM)
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ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:00 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:09 PM)
qualifications are 90+ GPA top 10% of class

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:17 PM)
hello newcomers!

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:29 PM)
how many so tier were awarded last year

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:48 PM)
One last question about the nat'l merit scholarships, since I'm from Chicago, is the difference between in and out of state tuition covered as well

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:18:49 PM)
DP- the same criteria re: gpa and rank are true for south tier as for what I said to Matt Re: national merit

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:16 PM)
matt- differenced in tuition relate to the program you apply to. what are you planning to study?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:18 PM)
Matt-are you considering the private or public sector at AU

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:29 PM)
dp- i will have to look up the #, please give me just a moment

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:32 PM)
Actually, that was sort of my next question

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:19:44 PM)
Well go ahead

iggy1105 (ID=82) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:11 PM)
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MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:12 PM)
The reason I'm applying to Alfred is that I'm looking to dual-major in materials science and ceramic art & design

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:20 PM)
the New York State college of ceramics (ceramic engineering, materials science and art and design) are state funded

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MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:40 PM)
Alfred, therefore, seemed the logical place to apply

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:43 PM)
the out of state tuition is about $12,000

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:52 PM)
yes- a good choice :)

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:20:58 PM)
Is the difference covered?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:21:02 PM)
yes

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:21:25 PM)
What's the cost of room & board?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:21:48 PM)
Last year was $7450 average

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:22:11 PM)
i am leaving for a moment to check on # of scholarships last year. please be patient.....

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:22:11 PM)
And does financial aide cover both tuition and R&B?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:11 PM)
can you please tell me how many presidential scholarships are generally awarded

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:17 PM)
It depends on your need and any scholarships you would be awarded. You need to receive an estimated award notice from us to determine what your aid would be.

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:23:29 PM)
I've talked to a current NYSCC student from Chicago, and she said that she has a friend who is doing the engineering/art and design dual-major, but I just wanted to double check that the college itself is ok with this--also, approximately how much longer would this program of study take to complete?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:24:02 PM)
dp- i cannot locate exact numbers, but definately more than 50

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:24:18 PM)
thanks

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:24:20 PM)
Ann, Renee would be better able to answer that question and she has left the chat room for a moment to answer another question.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:24:27 PM)
your welcome.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:24:47 PM)
i am back- i will answer matt's double major questions, then check on ann's questions

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:25:22 PM)
matt- you can do the double major, it will take a year or so to complete both, but that excludes and summer courses you would take or if you have any ap or college credits

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:25:37 PM)
is there a particular commitment of AU to enroll southern tier students

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:25:58 PM)
I am leaving for a moment to see if I can get the answer ann's last question

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:05 PM)
How soon after submitting the applicatiion does one hear on acceptance?

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:10 PM)
what's a "southern tier" student?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:18 PM)
i don't know the exact number of presidential scholarships, either, and my computer froze the last time i tried to check.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:49 PM)
there is no set number of presidential scholarships given. everyone who qualifies will be considered.

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:26:50 PM)
the student also said that Ceramics courses are also extremely difficult to register for, is there priority registration or some such thing for honors college students?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:27:20 PM)
in terms of timing, most students hear within a few weeks of the application being complete. all students who apply on time will hear by mid march.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:03 PM)
DP- i think that we encourage southern tier students to consider aflred b/c we are in their "backyard"

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:15 PM)
it is always noce to have somewhat local students represent our univeristy

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:37 PM)
souther tier refers to the 8 counties along the sothern, western border of NY

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:40 PM)
matt-

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:54 PM)
yep

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:28:56 PM)
I'd say about 150 Presidentials last year

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:08 PM)
my sense of registering for classes (and i was a student at AU as well) is that if you go through pre registration, then you can get the courses you need

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:15 PM)
thanks diane!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:36 PM)
if you wait to sign up for classes then you may put yourself in a difficult situation

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:29:47 PM)
how advisable is it to arrange an in person interview with admissions and when should it be done

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:06 PM)
we always welcome students to interview, dp

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:16 PM)
She even said that she finally just switched to graphic design because of the difficulty

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:32 PM)
it is not necessary, but if you feel that there is something you'd like to share with us, then we encourage you to do so

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:43 PM)
when do incoming freshman register for classes?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:30:48 PM)
likewise, if you have questions that need to be answered, you should always feel free to call on us

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:00 PM)
incoming freshmen register for classes over the summer

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:30 PM)
Interviews are a beneficial experience because you you get a feeling for the people and environment of our campus

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:31 PM)
matt- i could see how ceramics would be difficult, as it is a popular major, but i have to admit i am not very familiar with any sort of issue.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:31:45 PM)
but, i do not work with current students very much. just incoming freshmen

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:07 PM)
what is the deadline for applying for financial aide & do you reapply year-to-year?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:08 PM)
ann- did all your questions get answered?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:24 PM)
How many freshman enter with an undecided major

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:30 PM)
lots!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:45 PM)
"undeclared" is actually our most popular major!

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:50 PM)
that's good

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:32:54 PM)
There is no deadline for applying for financial aid as a freshman and yes you do need to apply every year for need based aid and the deadline for that is currently March 15

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:33:24 PM)
many people swith their majors in the first two years, so we encourage people to explore (while they complete general requirements).

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:33:38 PM)
you do not have to declare a major until the end of sophomore year

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:34:07 PM)
matt- did i miss any of your questions?

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:34:10 PM)
How long after submitting the fafsa do you receive the info from them

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:34:31 PM)
Yeah, one more question

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:34:32 PM)
Anywhere from 3 to 4 weeks

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:35:49 PM)
matt?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:35:51 PM)
Since I would be doing the double major and probably be taking at least an extra semester, even with all the AP credit, would the national merit scholarship cover the extra tuition, etc., or would I have to rely on need-based financial aid and loans, etc. for the extra time

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:00 PM)
Can I dual major in art& design w/in the State School and philosophy or mathematics within the private sector of AU? If yes, how is the tuition calculated?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:20 PM)
Ann, use the postcard so they'll notify you that they've received your fafsa.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:39 PM)
my understanding is that the scholarship covers only the 4 years. but, one semester is a small price to pay for two four year degrees, right?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:36:50 PM)
true, true

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:13 PM)
Can you tell me how you determine the amount of a presidential scholarship?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:23 PM)
mogval- a student is charged the tuition of the school they started under, so you would be an A&D student who chose to doubel major in something in liberal arts

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:35 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:35 PM)
presidential scholarships are determined by GPA and Rank in class

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:37:54 PM)
90+ gpa, top 10% of class

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:19 PM)
What other scholarships and aid are there that are applicable after the fourth year? (My parents have told me that I'm on my own, so this is a little bit of a concern for me)

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:43 PM)
Do you use weighted gpa's or regular ones?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:48 PM)
Ann, the postcard would be used if you are submitting a paper fafsa to the federal processor.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:49 PM)
gpa and rank are not strict guidelines as course selection and school you attend are also considered.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:38:55 PM)
we look at your SAT or ACT as well

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:23 PM)
wmogval- we use whichever the school reports (or both)

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:41 PM)
we take a lot of time with each application, reviewing each student in light of his or her own situation

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:39:58 PM)
this way we gain a better understanding of who you are and what abilities you have

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:09 PM)
thanks

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:25 PM)
matt- i do not know of any specific scholarships because i only work with incoming students.

ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:32 PM)
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ann (ID=78) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:32 PM)
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MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:33 PM)
thanks anyway

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:36 PM)
but, AU's website keeps a list of outside resources

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:40:50 PM)
Matt, Need based aid and loans would be available to you your last year, if you qualified under the needs analysis methodology and also there are student alternative loans, but generally you need a co-signer and there is no guarantee that you would be approved for this type of loan.

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:07 PM)
does AU hire junior/seniors as dorm counsellors?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:30 PM)
we hire sophomores, juniors and seniors as RA (resident assistants)

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:46 PM)
do they get free room & board?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:50 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:41:57 PM)
yes, i beleive they do.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:00 PM)
hi mom

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:03 PM)
sorry for typos

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:05 PM)
hi MOM!

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:24 PM)
Hi. I'm subbing for my student tonight.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:39 PM)
What a god mom

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:39 PM)
well, we'll make sure you get the extra credit points!

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:50 PM)
Hey, it's my money!!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:42:51 PM)
do you have any questions for us?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:02 PM)
true, true....

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:04 PM)
The free R&B may help MattH in his 5th year if he could do that (resident asst) & keep his sanity

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:18 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:19 PM)
very thoughtful mogval!

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:20 PM)
yep, good idea

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:25 PM)
hi derek

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:27 PM)
Resident assistant is a cushy job

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:27 PM)
hello derek

Risque_vie (ID=87) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:28 PM)
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Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:40 PM)
Hey

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:45 PM)
My questions have been covered by EP in the other room - I'm just hoping to glean good info from other people's questions

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:45 PM)
hi risque, any questions

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:43:47 PM)
sure, rick- not like you're responsible for anyone life or anything!

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:03 PM)
Good idea mom

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:07 PM)
glean away, mom!

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:12 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:19 PM)
mogval, matt- any other questions?

MattH (ID=80) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:22 PM)
Approximately what could I expect to make on a co-op, enough to pay most of that semester?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:26 PM)
hello andrew

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:30 PM)
hi andrew

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:32 PM)
Actually there are a couple of major job sources - security would be another one

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:34 PM)
Hello

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:37 PM)
varies a great degree

mogval (ID=81) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:44 PM)
Does AU hire any graduate students as TAs w/in art& design?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:46 PM)
andrew, what are your questions

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:50 PM)
but, co-op or any Ceramic engineering job is good money!

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:44:51 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:02 PM)
Au does not use TA's

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:29 PM)
All graduates in Art and design get a full assistantship

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:30 PM)
occasionally, and Art Masters candidate will teach an art course to non-majors, but that's it

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:41 PM)
oops- sorry

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:51 PM)
i meant the masters art students teach non-art majors

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 7:45:59 PM)
Is there any type finical aid for students with disabilities

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:46:04 PM)
Mogval, That is they get a full tuition and fee assistantship

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:05 PM)
Andrew, i don't know- Diane, do you?

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:12 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:19 PM)
hi meryl!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:27 PM)
how's the evening going?

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:33 PM)
Hey renee!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:40 PM)
have you learned lots?

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:47:49 PM)
i feel so lost. but i was reassured to see someone in my boat

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:00 PM)
My son is looking at Materials Science major and maybe dual degree in chemistry - if that runs into a 5th year, what does happen with financial aid? See I knew I'd come up with a question

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:02 PM)
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DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:05 PM)
There is not any specific aid for students with disabilities, but you may qualify for the Educational Opportunity Program if you are academically and economically disadvantaged. You apply to this program through admissions.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:07 PM)
yeah- it is sort of a whirl wind of info

dp (ID=76) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:18 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:34 PM)
a dual major in chem and materials scicen can probably be done in 4 years

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:48 PM)
I could help someone in room 1

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:50 PM)
Can you get a fully paid college scholarship?

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 7:48:52 PM)
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Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:09 PM)
hey can i major in pre vet (bio) and minor in languages and astronomy?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:13 PM)
the national merit finalist is the only scholarhsip we offer that is a "full ride"

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:20 PM)
meryl- yes!

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:35 PM)
double minor?!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:46 PM)
not a problem

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:56 PM)
sweet.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:49:59 PM)
almost did it myself, but i had trouble with a geology class.....

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:09 PM)
is Eton Kerner coming to the chat?

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:11 PM)
What is the avg. SAT score for the fall of 2001

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:19 PM)
do you plan to fix foreign speaking animals on the moon?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:27 PM)
eton did not sign up.....

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:35 PM)
andrew-

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:50:50 PM)
most of our applicants score between 1050 and 1250

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:51:09 PM)
but, we do not focus on SAT scores

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:51:19 PM)
lol. well at least their parents might be foreign speaking and from the other planets or the moon- we need to get the treatment understood

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 7:51:28 PM)
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DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:51:47 PM)
Derek, There is lots of aid available at Alfred and you should apply for financial aid to see what your package would be as with all the different types, based on your need and academic qualifications.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:51:57 PM)
too much meryl!

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:14 PM)
:)

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:19 PM)
mom- getting the info you hoped for?

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:52:59 PM)
i lost my name/password for my online application

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:53:15 PM)
i have absolutely no idea what to do about that......

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:53:37 PM)
i was actually going to ask you when we might get your app, b/c we have a few from bklyn tech already....

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:53:50 PM)
i'd hate for you to have to start over.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:00 PM)
i can check with our online app person, and email you tomorrow

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:22 PM)
yes - getting a good laugh, too!

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:32 PM)
its no biggie- i didnt fill too much off the cuff info

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:36 PM)
it's better than prime time tv

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:54:50 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:55:17 PM)
renee is taking a break for the moment, kitty will answer for me

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:55:17 PM)
We have a dairy farm here - I won't tell you the kind of language the hired man uses to the cows

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:55:35 PM)
not what you can major in at AU I hope

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:56:00 PM)
Farming or the Language?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:56:13 PM)
cursing, basically

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 7:56:37 PM)
Oh! Kitty is our Director of Admissions so this would be a good time to ask her any questions

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:00 PM)
Derek, Didn't finish my last sentence-sorry. You have to get estimated aid packages from different colleges and compare the net cost to you. Also make sure you what you are looking at, as you have to be comparing apples to apples. We do not put parent loan eligibility or student alternative loan eligibility on our award notices and some other institutions do. You may have eligibility for these programs here, but you need to call us after you receive your award notice from us so that we can give you those values.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:03 PM)
I'm using Renee as an alias but I'm here.

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:23 PM)
Hi Kitty

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:57:32 PM)
Hi Meryl

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 7:58:22 PM)
When do acceptance letters come out? My son just got notified he won a CANY award (bookstore credit) which I take as a very good sign he will be offered admission, but no official letter yet

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:58:39 PM)
If i can get to my online application, and hand it in, i believe i will be at alfred in the fall

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:58:41 PM)
:)

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 7:59:05 PM)
(or woould like to be)

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:59:14 PM)
We try to read applications in the order in which they are complete. Acceptance letters are mailed on an on-going basis. Everyone should have a decision by mid-March.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 7:59:16 PM)
I believe acceptance letter start coming out in mid February

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 7:59:45 PM)
Meryl, we hope you're here too.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:07 PM)
How soon after acceptance letter arrives would the financial aid offer arrive?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:30 PM)
Typicall within a couple of weeks, assuming the Financial Aid

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:39 PM)
application is complete.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:00:51 PM)
Oh, it will be!!!

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:01:26 PM)
Mom, As long as you have a copy of your student's fafsa in our office and an AU financial aid ap, we send out an estimated award notice within one to two weeks of the student's acceptance.

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:01:42 PM)
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Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:02:30 PM)
That is the big lesson we learned from my daughter going through the college applications process 2 years ago - apply early!! We mailed our FAFSA to processor on 1/4, and your applications last week. Except farm supplement & that will be going out soon

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 8:02:41 PM)
When you fill out the FAFSA does it work for all colleges or do you have to send each one a separate form?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:32 PM)
Mom, Did you indicate Alfred University in the step 6 of the fafsa?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:40 PM)
You bet

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:03:45 PM)
Derek, the FAFSA only needs to be completed once. results will be sent to all schools you indicate. Be sure to keep a copy.

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:04:29 PM)
Derek, Step 6 of the fafsa asks for college names/codes and this is what determines which colleges will be able to receive a copy of your student aid report electronically.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:04:53 PM)
renee is back!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:04:58 PM)
hope kitty served you all well!

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:06 PM)
definitely

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:18 PM)
Stacy, it's me Diane at AU.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:19 PM)
mom- are you the personwho requested the farm form when you pre-registered for this evening?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:34 PM)
yes, probably

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:43 PM)
nice to "meet" you

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 8:05:56 PM)
Okay, we got that part done. Great! Thanks for all of this info! It really helps.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:00 PM)
I've got most of the wretched thing filled out

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:21 PM)
I'm glad your finding this helpful, Derek.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:33 PM)
we appreciate you visiting us, too!

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:50 PM)
Had to get info from our mortgage holders, which I did, so I should be getting that out to you soon.

Derek (ID=84) (Jan 18, 2001 8:06:50 PM)
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Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:08:49 PM)
Back to the dual degree idea - I expect it would stretch out the completion time if he does internships or co-ops or whatever?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:08:52 PM)
Mom-Do you live on the farm and operate it?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:16 PM)
yes, co-op's and internships that stretch into the school year do delay graduation

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:26 PM)
Yes. My husband is the farmer. I do the books and have a part-time job off the farm

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:30 PM)
but, the expereince is WELL worth it!

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:09:44 PM)
and $$ too, for co-ops?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:11:02 PM)
some- our career development center helps students identify opportunities

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:11:34 PM)
some majors (i.e. engineering) are more liekly to have paying internships then other majors (soft sciences, like sociology)

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:12:00 PM)
Mom, If you live on the farm and operate it , it is not considered an investment farm-see question #82 on the fafsa. Therefore, you do not have to complete the business/farm supplement.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:13:06 PM)
The materials science faculty person who recommended the dual degree (mat sci & chem) suggested taking courses at Broome CC in summer to fulfill distribution requirements, but that would seem to kibosh summer internship opportunities

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:13:28 PM)
Mom, Haven't seen all the conversation about co-ops, but the student does not receive any financial aid while on co-op and should keep receipts for all their expenses while on co-op.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:04 PM)
What expenses? Why receipts?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:16 PM)
yes- but some of those courses could be taken freshman and soph year, co-op in junior year

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:47 PM)
I, personally, don't think it's aweful to delay graduation for a semester or year when the reason is "real life" hand on experience.

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:54 PM)
We had to fill out the supplement for other colleges anyway - the inconsiderate folks who require Profile

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:14:59 PM)
i will lead to better job opportunities down the road

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:09 PM)
I agree

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:16 PM)
uh, IT will lead, sorry about typos

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:22 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:27 PM)
you're kinda quiet meryl,

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:37 PM)
just enjoing the conversation?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:15:37 PM)
But what do you do about tuition/aid for the extra semester (s)?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:16:35 PM)
i believe students can receive need-based aid for 5 years

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:16:48 PM)
diane? do you have the details?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:17:44 PM)
DC - can you explain what you were saying about receipts for expenses while on co-op? I guess I don't understand what co-ops are

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:18:27 PM)
Mom, Living expenses, rent, food, work clothing, auto/transportation expenses, utilities, etc.. The receipts are needed as while on co-ops/internships, students can earn quite a bit of money, more than usual. In the following year's financial aid evaluation that income is considered and we use the expenses against the income and therefore the income's impact on the expected family contribution doesn't have such a large impact.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:11 PM)
rick- any questions for us? :)

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:25 PM)
yes-- sitting back

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:34 PM)
well, enjoy, Meryl!

Meryl (ID=61) (Jan 18, 2001 8:19:38 PM)
:)

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:22:51 PM)
anyone with a question?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:23:21 PM)
Ah... thanks, DC

Rick - Alfred (ID=59) (Jan 18, 2001 8:24:08 PM)
DC - you really require receipts from co-ops?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:24:54 PM)
Mom, Need based aid, if eligible, would be awarded for the fifth year, however this would not be the cases if the student has exceeded the maximum time frame in which the student is expected to finish a baccalaureate degree program. This is defined as 150% of the published length of the program. For example, Liberal Arts requires 124 credit hours to complete a degree. Therefore, the maximum time frame for which this student may be eligible for aid is the period during which the student attempts 186 credit hours (124 x 1.5 = 186). This is part of the Satisfactory Progress Standards Policy. Hope it helps.

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:25:56 PM)
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Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:26:19 PM)
186 credit hours ought to be enough time for anybody to do a dual degree and then some!

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:26:24 PM)
Rick, We do not require them if the student does not wish to have his expenses netted against his income. But, for need based aid, it is certainly for their own benefit,

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:26:40 PM)
Mom, Sure is!!!!!!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:27:04 PM)
ho again andrew!

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:27:10 PM)
uh, that would be hi!

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:27:18 PM)
Hello

EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 8:27:47 PM)
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EP- Financial Aid Advisor (ID=66) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:09 PM)
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Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:15 PM)
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DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:22 PM)
hi roxanne=welcome

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:23 PM)
hello roxanne

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:36 PM)
any questions we can answer for you?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:28:52 PM)
that should have been - not =. Any questions about financial aid or admissions?

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:29:02 PM)
We'll never remember all this good advice - can I assume that you all advise people who are doing co-ops about the expense idea?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:29:30 PM)
We certainly make our best efforts to inform them all.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:29:48 PM)
i know the career development center also councils students for co-op and internship

Roxanne (ID=98) (Jan 18, 2001 8:30:04 PM)
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jeanine (ID=99) (Jan 18, 2001 8:30:46 PM)
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Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:31:09 PM)
hello jeanine!

jeanine (ID=99) (Jan 18, 2001 8:31:22 PM)
hey

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:31:35 PM)
any questions we can answer for you?

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:32:00 PM)
Do you give students from the surrounding counties any type of incentive aid?

jeanine (ID=99) (Jan 18, 2001 8:32:19 PM)
how do we apply for fin. aid besides the general forms?

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:32:39 PM)
Mom, When we see co-op checked for a semester on #8 of the financial aid application, we send a package out for the other semester and put a note on the award notice about keeping co-op receipts.

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:32:43 PM)
andrew- we offer a scholarship for students who live in the souther tier of NYS

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:05 PM)
jeanine, in addition to the FASFA, we have our own application that we ask you to fill out

Mom (ID=77) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:07 PM)
good plan

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:09 PM)
Jeanine, We require a copy of the fafsa and the Alfred University financial aid application.

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:18 PM)
What is the criteria?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:24 PM)
have you applied already?

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:33:26 PM)
andrew-

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:34:02 PM)
the criteria is generally a 90+ average and top 10% of hs class

Andrew (ID=88) (Jan 18, 2001 8:34:04 PM)
yes

Renee @ AU (ID=67) (Jan 18, 2001 8:34:17 PM)
we also look at your SATs or ACTs, but we don't focus on them

DC counselor (ID=74) (Jan 18, 2001 8:34:17 PM)
Jeanine, Don't forget to put Alfred University in step 6 of the fafsa.

jeanine (ID=9